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Tuesday, November 17, 2009

WTF: I would love it if I could spend just one day on campus without hearing someone utter some homophobic slur when I walk by. I'm sorry I'm a little flamboyant, but there's not really much I can do about that. Didn't we get over this in the late 90s anyway?

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  1. people are still like that? some people seem to never get out of the high school mindset. i apologise on behalf of my ignorant heterosexuals (as well as those closet homosexual homophobes).

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  2. I think it's disgusting that an institution of higher learning has such ignorant, close-minded people.

    Learn to fucking accept it. I mean, what's the big deal? If two people of the same sex want to have a romantic relationship, it shouldn't affect YOU.

    Just like same-sex marriage. If it bothers you that much, DON'T GET ONE! People's private matters should stay strictly private.

    Get out of the fucking stone age, people. It's the 21st century. I think those of you who attend a school like UW should've realized that by now...

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  3. ffffffff----------gggggggggg

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  4. You're right OP. There's not a thing you can do about it. If you have a problem with overhearing views that differ from your own, even if they happen to be directed at you, please feel free to vacate the country, and find one with fewer liberties.

    I applaud the first commenter. He has summed up the perfect rebuttle in one word.

    PS, posts 2 and 3 are gay.

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  5. HOW did you become so flamboyant?

    I am not agains gay people, except flamboyant gay guys, which look really annoying in public.

    So how did you happen to become so and why are you so sure it is out of your control?

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  6. poster #5
    that is a whole different argument than i've ever heard. you rock.
    and make a lot of sense.

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  7. i got nothing against hot lesbians ;)

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  8. amen to hot lesbains.

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  9. As a undecidedly gay male, I find flamboyancy to be annoying, sorry to say. However uttering slurs is ignorant and disrespectful. I'm all for people being who they are, even if, like myself, they're not sure who that person is.

    As for freedoms and liberties, yeah, people are allowed to say whatever they want, but it doesn't make it right. Didn't anyone teach you: If you can't say something nice, do say anything at all - or whatever the correct wording is.

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  10. Since when was flamboyancy a crime? If you really did "support equal rights" and all, gays should be able to complain and make hetero slurs against all those different-sex couples for being "flamboyant" with their sexuality and "flaunting their shit". - Straight Female

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  11. #5, are you kidding me? You think someone's right to yell a homophobic slur supersedes a gay individual's right to live with the same freedoms you have? Do you also tell black people to go back to Africa if they don't want people calling them the 'n' word?

    Mods, this site is going to go downhill fast if you don't start screening comments and posts.

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  12. @ last comment'r

    The right to yell a homophobic slur is actually a "right". It's listed under Fundamental Freedoms in Part 1 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

    There is no right to "not be offended". So exactly which freedoms are you talking about that I have and a gay person doesn't?

    And yes, 100% I would say my fundamental rights supercede your individual comforts. By infinity. You don't have the right to be change what I say, or what anyone else says, around you so that you're comfortable.

    You cannot do fuck all if the motivation behind it is "it offends me". If you try and implement any sort of policy, regulation, law, or governing proposal of any kind with this as your motive, you will infringe upon liberties. Guaranteed. This should never happen, but we still have radio censorship, public television censorship, and a wide assortment of other infringements on these, our most fundamental of rights and freedoms in our everyday lives.

    It's bullshit.

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  13. Well, either way, dickhole above, uttering slurs still makes you an unintelligent, uncouth, asshole worthy of working in a steel mill and hopefully dying of cancer. :)

    That is such an American attitude.

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  14. This is OP here.

    @ last poster: Your right to free expression is restricted "to such reasonable limits prescribed by law" as per the Guarantee of Rights and Freedoms. In R. vs. Keegstra (1990), it was decided that limiting this right to disallow hate speech and discriminatory harassment to be reasonable. So no, the charter does not protect your "right to yell homophobic slurs.

    And perhaps I should define what I mean flamboyancy: No, I do not "dress up as a naked fireman", though thanks for the generalisation. A better description is that I tend to have a more eccentric personality, and I speak with a slight lisp. Ask any decently-educated psychologist or speech professionalist, and they'll tell you that personality and speech tendencies develop with little or no influence from the individual, and it takes alot of effort to change. And I don't intend to go through that effort just to satisfy ignorant bigots.

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  15. If you are so concerned about your "right to yell homophobic slurs"..you are living a very sad existence.

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  16. I hear derogatory comments against women a lot. I can honestly say it doesn't bother me.

    For example, if someone is an actual misogynist (I think the term can be used quite "loosely") and think that because I am a woman I should have no rights... why should that bother me? People are free to think what they want, and I still have the same number of freedoms I always have. Now, if legislation to prevent women voting was trying to pass, then I would have something to say about it, but one person's view has absolutely nothing to do with me.

    In my view a difference of opinion, no matter how uneducated I might think the other opinion to be, is not a good reason to bring negativity onto myself.

    Obviously when people start physically acting on their viewpoints (creating violence etc) then the problem occurs.

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  17. Anyone who thinks that being gay is a choice is clearly bisexual. Think about it.

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  18. i wish i was bisexual. would totally double my market.

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  19. i agree with the third poster up from me: "Anyone who things that being gay is a choice is clearly bisexual. Think about it."
    well said.

    also, how about everyone just goes about their business and ignores the ignorant fucktards that annoy them.

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  20. 4 posts above me: "people are free to think what they want, and I still have the same number of freedoms I always have." It'd be great if that's how it worked, but tell that to the gay population of several American states, whose rights are literally being determined by 'what people think.' While we as women have the comfort of knowing that most of our battles have been won (in the legal sense, and sometimes *only* in the legal sense), other groups haven't gotten to that stage yet. So while it's admirable that you don't let negative comments affect you, that's always easier when you know those misogynist feelings are in the minority and do not threaten your rights in a very real way.

    For the record, I'm a heterosexual female, and I am really embarrassed to be in any way affiliated with some of the comments on this post. For all of our sake, I hope it's the effect of the internet, and I'm sure you're all compassionate thoughtful people irl.

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